. >> clayton: get out your abacus, receipt n-- right now, president obama and mitt romney are behind closed doors and doing debate prep and rob portman doing the debate prep for mitt romney has been going after him, really, really tough and governor, trying to throw him off and get him agitated, but the vice-presidential candidates are out, they're basically doing the campaigning right now. >> alisyn: they're in some battle ground states and vice-president biden was in florida, whereas so was paul ryan, right, in florida. >> dave: in ohio, i believe. >> alisyn: in ohio. he was in ohio and he reminded his ohio audience about something that candidate obama said about guns and religion back in 2008. let's listen to obama back then. >> people have been beaten down they feel (inaudible) >> that was of course, the candidate at a san francisco fundraiser, talking about the people in i think, western pennsylvania that cling to their guns and religion and that's something that paul ryan brought back up on the campaign trail on saturday. he is appealing to those gun owners, listen. >> you know